Troubleshooting Blackberry and Netgear, Curve 8900 Wi-Fi/UMA Connection with NETGEAR Wireless Router

April 30 · 125 comments

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blackberry curve 8900I’ve been trying to connect a Blackberry Curve 8900 to a Netgear RangeMax wireless router. The router has 64bit WEP encryption set and I have no problems connecting any of my other wireless network devices. If I go through the Wi-Fi setup on the Blackberry, it finds my network, I select it, insert the correct key, it tries to connect and then says the following:  W002 – Wi-Fi Connection Failed, Meaning: The phone was unable to get an IP address from the DHCP server in order to establish a connection.

netgear max rangeSo I start down the road of trouble shooting the problem.  I test other wireless routers and all that I came across worked just fine, but not my Netgear RangeMax router.  So I Googled W002 – Wi-Fi Connection Failed and the first page I found listed out all the Wifi/UMA Error Codes that Blackberry’s can get .  I started following the instructions for W002 to troubleshoot the problem, but didn’t have any luck.

Next, I called T-Mobile’s (Works with AT&T also) Hot line for blackberry support.  If you have had a Blackberry with T-Mobile over the years, you might have run across this direct number.  It’s great, an actual customer service agent answers the line and they start right into helping you.  Unfortunately, after years of owning a Blackberry, you know right-a-way you need level 2 support because you have already done everything the first tech is going to take you through.  So they pushed me to level 2 and level 2 pushed me to Blackberry Support. Wow, now I was talking with someone from Blackberry named Jesus in Texas.  He spent several hours on the phone with me leaving me with the same problem that I called with.  But we sure did re-work that Blackberry which gave me more knowledge of how they work, so I didn’t mind it too much.

My next step was to call Netgear.  I reached Ryan, agent #3228 in the Philippines after a few menu choices.  Ryan took me through the following configuration changes: switch to Channel 11, set Mode to b and g, and turn off WEP. Bingo, the Blackberry connected and rolled right over to UMA mode. It was great but I’m not comfortable in leaving my wireless network unsecured.  So he asks me to try WPA-PSK [TKIP] + WPA2-PSK [AES], which is a higher level of encryption and the Blackberry connects right-a-way. Ryan then explains that the software on the Blackberry is more advanced than the older models, so it’s using a higher level of security. Thanks to Ryan, my problem is solved and it only took 15 minutes!

For those of you that don’t know the difference in the wireless security settings that I mentioned above, here are the basics:

TKIP (Temporal Key Integrity Protocol) and AES (Advanced Encryption Standard) is a choice between old and new technologies.  Both WPA-PSK [TKIP] and WPA2-PSK [AES] offer good security, but WPA is theoretically breakable and WPA2 with a strong password can withstand an attack for years.

WEP (Wired Equivalent Privacy) is the oldest (1999) Wi-Fi protection standard and can be cracked in a matter of minutes these days.

UPDATE: If Wi-Fi goes out on your Blackberry pull the battery out and wait 10 seconds before putting it back in.  Your connection should come back right a way.

UPDATE: I switched to a Linksys WRT160N router and it has fixed all of my problems. Especially with the signal dropping.

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  • Tim

    Hello, I also have a TMobile BB8900 and they told me that I could do the wifi calls from international locations back to the USA by simple shutting off the cell tower connection and using my wifi to make the call…I do this and have full wifi capabilities on my phone to scan the internet and what not but when i got to make a phone call it tells me call failed… THis is killing my ability to stay in touch with friends and family back in the USA as well as hurting my ability to stay in touch as I set up my business between the USA and Spain… PLEASE SOMEONE Know what i can do? I need this resolved ASAP and i just spent 1.5 hours with tmobile online support and they didnt have any clue.. I dont even get the UMA symbol to pop up…..

    Hope to here from someone soon…

    THanks

  • Tim

    Hello, I also have a TMobile BB8900 and they told me that I could do the wifi calls from international locations back to the USA by simple shutting off the cell tower connection and using my wifi to make the call…I do this and have full wifi capabilities on my phone to scan the internet and what not but when i got to make a phone call it tells me call failed… THis is killing my ability to stay in touch with friends and family back in the USA as well as hurting my ability to stay in touch as I set up my business between the USA and Spain… PLEASE SOMEONE Know what i can do? I need this resolved ASAP and i just spent 1.5 hours with tmobile online support and they didnt have any clue.. I dont even get the UMA symbol to pop up…..

    Hope to here from someone soon…

    THanks

  • simple_tech

    For those wanting to use the home wifi only for internet (without data plan), make sure to change your browser to hotspot. If you leave it on internet browser it will only use your carrier connection. Go to options>advanced>browser and change default browser configuration to hotspot.

  • simple_tech

    Also wanted to let everyone know an easier way to do a battery pull. We all know what a pain it is to get the protective case off just to pull the battery.

    If you hold the (left)alt key , the (right)aA^ key , and the del key all at the same time (about 3 seconds) it will reset the BB. No battery pull needed.

  • niranjan

    hi thats great info…i followed your steps and things were looking good but when i connect to the wireless it shows an active connection but i'm not able to browse anything and when i do a diagnostics: under blackberry infrastructure Connecting : it shows a cross mark….any suggestions how do i connect my 8900

  • mo55

    i have the curve 8900…but i have been unable to change the channel to 11…..how may i do that? can u please explain with details?

  • simpletech

    This is not done on the BB itself. You need to access your routers configuration page. It depends what kind of router you have. Linksys and many others are http://192.168.1.1 . Netgear can be accessed by typing http://www.routerlogin.net , others are http://10.0.0.1 , and 2wire routers/gateways are usually 192.168.1.254. You must then enter a username and password to access it. Again, these are all different depending on make and model of the router. It would be best to Google your router for login information, unless you have changed the default username and password.

    Once you have figured all that out, then you can change your channel. It will usually be located under wireless setup, or basic wireless. Good luck!

  • Terry McCullough

    Thank God. It Worked. I have the same router and I've been at it for hours. Thanks

  • terrymccullough

    ok it worked for awhile now I have lost my wifi connection again. Why??

  • Kish

    Kudos to Filipinos!

  • yongfcb

    Great! thank you and…..thank google

  • sue

    I just got my first blackberry and am having the exact same problem. It's the same with me, I nave no problem connecting any of my other devices to the netgear but the blackberry curve 8900 gives me that same error message… now my problem..I don't know how to change the settings on my router. How exactly did you do this?? If you could email me with an answer, I would be so thankful. Please help me, I really like my new phone, but I don't have the data plan, so if I can't get it to connect, then I'm going to have to return it soon. Thank you for your time.

  • chaitanya77

    hey please help me in this i too have the same problem as urs can u help me i solving this ??? thanks in advance can u mail me 2 chaitanya.bhasker@gmail.com

  • Nathan

    Wow, thank you so much for this post. I have an 8900 on AT&T and couldn't get my wifi to work at home, even though it worked fine everywhere else – no error message, said it was connected, but didn't work. Changed to channel 11 (already using wpa2 – AES) and, presto! it's working:D. Thank you again for sharing your experience with the rest of us.

  • http://twitter.com/conkinho Simon Alexander

    Hello,

    Can you help me? I have run out of ideas! I have a BB Curve 8900 on Orange in the UK. I recently lost UMA on my BB, no idea why.

    I have exchanged emails with Netgear with no joy, spoken to Orange who suggested a software update which killed my phone (I have just received a brand new one – still no UMA!)

    What on earth is going on? Help…..please!

  • http://twitter.com/conkinho Simon Alexander

    Hello,

    Can you help me? I have run out of ideas! I have a BB Curve 8900 on Orange in the UK. I recently lost UMA on my BB, no idea why.

    I have exchanged emails with Netgear with no joy, spoken to Orange who suggested a software update which killed my phone (I have just received a brand new one – still no UMA!)

    What on earth is going on? Help…..please!

  • sammears

    Could you please help me. I just got my Blackberry yesterday and since havn't been able to reveive or send texts or phonecalls, i tried setting up the wireless connection and i inserted the WEP key (i am using a netgear internet connection) and it then goes on to tell me that it failed to obtain an IP address. What should i do? Thankss

  • http://www.thomasecook.com Thomas Cook

    Simon, have you tired the suggestion above? It's important to use a higher level of encryption with the router.

  • http://www.thomasecook.com Thomas Cook

    You need to use a higher level of encryption with the router than WEP. Try WPA-PSK [TKIP] and WPA2-PSK [AES].

  • sleepytexan

    where do you go to change to channel 11 and so on, I'm totally lost
    can someone tell me how to change these things step-by-step
    thanks alot and a happy new year

  • Thomas

    Connect a computer to any one of the four LAN ports of the NETGEAR router. Open an Internet browser and type the router IP address which would be either http://192.168.0.1 or http://192.168.1.1 (by default) in the address bar and press Enter. The Login window will be prompting for a Username and Password. The default Username is admin and the default Password is password if you have not changed it. Click Wireless Settings under Setup menu. Select the desired channel from the drop-down. Then Click Apply

  • http://www.thomasecook.com Thomas Cook

    Connect your computer to any one of the four LAN ports of the NETGEAR router. Open an Internet browser and type the router IP address which would be either http://192.168.0.1 or http://192.168.1.1 (Or look at the back of your router to see the default IP address) in the address bar and press Enter. The Login window will be prompting for a Username and Password. The default Username is admin and the default Password is password if you have not changed them (I recommend changing them from the default settings). Click Wireless Settings under the Setup menu. Select the desired channel from the drop-down. Then Click Apply and you are done.

  • bbhelp

    Hi this is one of the best blogs I have ever read, however, I just got the BB 8900 from a friend and i am having the same problem—It connects to the Wifi, and on teh screen it says TMOBILE-Giggle (which is the name of my wifi connection at home) It has the UMA in the right hand corner. Everything is connected.

    NOW when i go to the browser it says : A web 2 go plan is required, upsell NOW. WTH is going on? I was on the phone with TMOBILE tech support for 2 hours and they could not help me, they cleary told me “if phone is not purchased from tmobile, you DO NOT have to have the data plan to use the WIFI, can anyone help me as to why i keep getting this msg? I have all the setting changed to what the thread said below, but i still can not get on… please HELP… you can email me at maryamkhan04@yahoo.com THANK YOU SOOO MUCH, i paid a lot for this phone so that i could use the wifi w.out getting a data plan (which i can't afford) PLEASE HELP

  • http://www.thomasecook.com Thomas Cook

    I don't think it matters if you didn't purchase the phone from T-Mobile. You are still using their network and they require to you have a data plan in order to access the internet.

  • simpletech

    You need to change your browser settings. Open Internet Browser, menu click, options, general properties, change default browser to hotspot. It will work as long as you are connected to WIFI. Good luck!

  • Bill

    Excellent fix! Worked on Ch 6 fine.

  • marcelo24

    Hi there,
    i just bought an 8900 curve from a friend that was on at&t network. I use t-mobile and for some reason unknown 8900 can't connect over wi-fi, even that recognize my home network.the only thing that it shows is a white dash right next to wi-fi and don't see UMA on the phone,with my other phone i had no problem connecting to the web.Can you help me..

  • nonie

    same prob here. bb8900 recognizes my home network but it shows the hyphen sign next to wifi and 'edge' is showing on my phone.

    pls help.

  • lgc25

    me too

  • lgc25

    i need help!!!1 i dont know how to fix it

  • gokay

    Hi there,
    I have BB Curve 8900 and Im having a WI-FI problem, its quite strange, until yesterday it worked quite well but today, its a headache even i havent changed any settings. Basically, it shows it is connected to the modem, i can access to the net but i can not use any appliacations which needs net connection, and mail box doesnt work, i cant get and send any e-mails.

    Can anyone suggest me something plz?

    thank you

  • jeff9a9

    My issue now is that WiFi crashes during a call and reverts back to EDGE. Also, my phone randomly (even with regular batt pulls) will quit rcvg/launching calls. I suspect there is a setting on the RangeMax that will address this. I am using WPA2 security and have never had an issue connecting. I also don't have this issue over LinkSys or with any other network I connect my 8900 Curve to.

  • http://www.thomasecook.com Thomas Cook

    Jeff9a9, I have the same problem with dropped calls on WiFi with the RangeMax, but it never drops on other WiFi routers. I'm not sure what the fix is here, but I'm going to look into it.

  • Bryan Rensema

    Thanks for posting this! I pretty much went through the same thing but only dealt with Blackberry support (who didn't help at all but were quite nice).
    Now I'm connected just fine to UMA but I've been experiencing periodic (maybe 3x/wk) complete loss of wireless signal. My home PC can see the wired connection but my other wireless computers AND my blackberries all lose connection! The only thing that I didn't do that you did was to switch to b/g and channel 11. I'll try this and keep my fingers crossed…

  • hussain

    mi blackberry conacting to wifi but win i go to browsing or sining in on messenger its not conacting and ( no data )

  • Scott

    Thank you so much for posting this. My BB Curve 8320 would recognize my Netgear WNR2000 fine, but would never shift to UMA. I wanted to use my wifi connection because my cell reception is so poor in my home. I didn't do exactly what you advised, but rather changed the security settings to WPA-PSK, auto channel, mode up to 300 mbps. I then manually added the network on my BB, wifi preferred (or even wifi only), and UMA immediately came up with a good wifi connection. I saw a related post that advised editing the wifi profile to allow inter-access point handover, which is supposed to minimize dropped calls and problems with pcs accessing the wifi at the same time. I have absolutely no understanding of what this all means, but it seems to work. So thanks.

  • sophiee9

    urmm. i dont understand when i find my wireless netgear router then when i click on it. where do i put the pin it says on the screen on my 8900? .. please helpp

  • christine1904

    someone help me please i have done everything you post…. and bb 8900 still not work.

  • pinoy ako

    OHA…. Pinoy!!!!

  • Friend

    That worked like a charm. Basically, I just changed my router's Encryption to the highest level (WPA-PSK [TKIP] and WPA2-PSK [AES]) and my BB is not connected and I am able to surf the internet. I had to change my computers to the new encryption as well and now all my internet devices are connected beautifully. Thank you Sir!

  • Friend

    Thank yoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!

  • shani

    yeah i face same problem like you says if you find any toubleshoot of this please reply me i try to find many places in internet but still suffering with with this problem :(

  • http://www.thomasecook.com Thomas Cook

    Have you tried to reboot the router?

  • Sachin_chamoliniit

    i can not make my calls to anyone but if some one is calling me it. it is running fine i am using bb curve 8900 please help me out

  • PraiseBB

    Pls i need help with my BB8900 curve ……actually it’s a unlock phone but i tried connecting to a wireless router but i could connect. I search manually for network but no luck…still couldn’t connect.
    Pls i need help s soon as possible..thanks.

  • Guest

    Thanks so much! I have a new BB Torch and had real connection probs. Moving off Ch12 to Ch11 licked it immediately! I was up that end of the channels to avoid interference with neighbours, but the (brand new) BB couldn’t handle it, despite everything else in the house being okay…

  • CGosnell

    I have a blackberry curve 8900, my wireless router is wireless-G router (dd-wrt). When i search for networks, it finds a signal on my router, and is activated. However, when i connect to the internet, be it Facebook or YM, it says Unknown Host. I need some help here.. Thanks.

  • Write2flex

    sorry 4 using dis method……….. plz sum1 help me i just got a bb8900 nd need 2 connect wif a wifi seting,afta tryin 2 do almost all u guys said on dis bog ma bb still not connected,it apears to see d network but still not connected even afta saving d home wireless……… sum 1 plz help……ma email add is write2flex@yahoo.com

  • Vhoward

    I suddenly lost the UMA on my blackberry 9105, although my blackberry successfully connected to the router, Orange sent me an update and i just had to do a soft reset and it worked, so try that!

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